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How to get Existing plans of your Property in Hackney

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In this video post we’ll cover how you can find the existing plans of your property in Hackney.

We also cover:

  • How to find an architect in Hackney
  • Getting ideas for your extension
  • Viewing PDFs of existing applications
  • Getting the AutoCAD of an existing planning application
How to find the existing plans of your property in Hackney

Resources

  • Hackney’s portal page [link]
  • Getting a measured survey from us [link]

Transcription

[00:00:00] Bhavesh Ramburn: Today I’m gonna show you how to find your existing plans of your property in some way or shape or form because sometimes you might not have the ability to get them and you might need to get a land surveyor to produce you a measured survey of your property. Let’s say you are living in Hackney you could go to their planning portal.

[00:00:27] Depending on your borough you, they would have a planning application search place which allows you to find applications of your property that have been done in the last 10, 15 years or more to help you. Some ways to have a basis for a blueprint for your plans of your house, because the majority of the projects or houses in the UK have had some extension except for the new builds, [00:01:00] which would then include some form of existing plan, which you can potentially use for your planning application or.

[00:01:09] Uses such as just getting some measurements of your room. But if you do need a, an existing plan of what’s there and you cannot find anything we do provide a service in our company. links will be provided in the video and the post. For now, let’s go through an example. Let’s imagine that you live in Hackney and your postcode is N16 5SP

[00:01:34] you’ll first need to Google your council’s government page. Ours at the moment is hackney.gov.uk. And what you’ll have to do is go to menu then look for planning and building and look for search view and comment on planning applications. Here you be presented with a search portal, which allows you to find [00:02:00] properties within the borough.

[00:02:02] What we’ll do is search for our property, which is N16 5SP. I’m gonna, Click search application. You can search by postcode or the address

[00:02:14] and you’ll have to scroll down, press search, and this will provide you a list of all the applications. in Listria Park. Now you’ll be able to find a number of projects on that particular road, and there might not. One specifically for your property, but if, say for example, you live at number 95 of this particular road, the chances is that your neighbor’s property might be similar to the one on 93.

[00:02:51] Of course, the plan might be mirrored, but it’ll give you a good indication of the size of the. If you can’t find your property that means there’s [00:03:00] not been any extension in the last 10, 15 years. What we’ll have to do is produce one for you, but let’s just imagine that we found an existing property for you.

[00:03:10] You, we found one with a 67 Listria street park, and this was to deal with replacement of existing rear extension. Within the list of applications, if you click on one of the links, it’ll bring you here. Let’s take a look at this application number 2022, which was done in this year 1, 203.

[00:03:32] In this application, you’ll see a list of documents which have the proposals as well as the existing. I would refer to the existing plans to get an idea of the floor plans. Let’s say we take a look at the drawings. There’s a existing floor plan, we’ll just click on that and open it up.

[00:03:55] Now you’ll see that this gives you a indicative view [00:04:00] of the drawings. Of course, these are not the AutoCAD files, but pdf you. Potentially print these on A3 and scale them using the scale bar or potentially reach out to the architect who’ve produced them. So, for example, the majority of drawings that are produced would have a title page with the details of the architect.

[00:04:24] Here you might be able to reach out to office S&M. Who may be able to, one, provide you with service to do your extension, but also if they’re nice enough, be able to provide you the plans in AutoCAD format.

[00:04:42] The other thing that you could do on here is get an in indication of what you might need to submit in your application. You will be able to see what the proposals are. Some of them would have proposals. There we go. Elevation side [00:05:00] proposal. As mentioned here, a proposed , first floor plan.

[00:05:05] If you click on this and open it up, this provides you an indication of the change. This is the proposal, and if we open up the old drawing, you see that this is an existing extensions here, but it’s been modified to have a roof light and a, a redesign of the extension. . If we look at the proposed elevation, we might be able to get a better idea, and this could give you an idea of what would be allowed in your borough in terms of extension to your property, especially if it’s been previously approved, which this has been, has been granted.

[00:05:48] And it gives you an idea of designs or potentials of extensions to your property.

[00:05:56] And again, as mentioned, you could always reach out [00:06:00] to the company that’s produced this or any other ones that have produced others is on that particular road that you live in. If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to leave a comment. On the blog post or the video, and I’ll ensure to get back to you with a response.

[00:06:20] Thank you, and I hope that’s been helpful.

How to calculate the cost of a measured survey?

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In this video I explain how to calculate the cost of a measured survey and the consideration taken to produce a quote using a 3D scanner or Total station.

Resource:

Transcript of the video

[00:00:00] Bhavesh Ramburn: Today I’m gonna show you how to work out the cost of a measured survey. For this example, we will start with a specification of, say, floor plans. There’s two of them, and area is say, a hundred square and we need one section. and say three elevation.

[00:00:33] And we also need one topo graphical survey and of roughly say, 1,200 square. So it’s a fairly large project with two floor plans, one section three elevations, and a topographical survey. Now the first thing we want to do is start pricing [00:01:00] the amount of time it would take to do the surveys. So normally, A surveyor could do roughly

[00:01:13] 600 square meters a day per survey project. So what we’ll do is, because there’s two floor plans that works out two, 200 square, but you have to also consider. You gotta pick up the externals of the property, which would be picked up in a topographical survey. Just as a reminder, this is a calculation base for a 3D scan of the property, so the quality is quite high.

[00:01:45] So. for this example, we’ll go from high to low based on my experience pricing, the measured surveys. So we would have a surveyor we’ll count as a day, [00:02:00] roughly a survey as cost in terms of employment. Cost is between. 24 to 35,000. So what I’m gonna do is do 30,000 divided by 220 to work out the daily cost of the individual, which is around hundred 36.

[00:02:22] For the purpose of this exercise, we will wrap around it after two or around 150. This includes additional costs that the business incurs such as. Personal protective equipment and other fees associated with surveyor.

[00:02:44] So, because it’s gonna take him roughly a day, because we work out roughly around 600 to 500 square a day. So that’s gonna be this times this. Now the other thing that he needs [00:03:00] is his equipment. So the 3D scanner costs on hire by, say, Sunbelt is around 350 pounds a day to 400 pounds, depending if you are running through a company or not.

[00:03:17] And your credit score. The current going rate for faro scanner is around 350 or around those mark in terms of material he wouldn’t need as such material, but a travel expense. In terms of other costs. So to travel to sites, say it’s within, you know, 20 to 40 miles. We’ll give him an allowance of let’s say 20 pounds a day.

[00:03:46] To roughly allocate his fuel to also cover for parking expenses. So let’s, let’s give it travel expense. I’ll say one [00:04:00] sum of, let’s be a bit more generous around 30 pounds a day, which is within a reasonable amount.

[00:04:13] So the next thing that we want to do is also work out how long it’s gonna take the process. So undertaking in a survey of using a 3D scanner would require a registration engineer of roughly. Looking at the size of it, so 400, the 200 square plus the topographical survey, it would take him around three to four hours.

[00:04:49] So we’ll just say four hours to complete. And one thing I’ve forgot to calculate is the topographical survey [00:05:00] because we’re taking 200 plus 2003 by 600. It would roughly be two engineers in that sense because. Ideally you can do around 700 to 800, so let’s call it 800 for now. So we’ll take in one day, two and a bit days to work out.

[00:05:32] So what I’m gonna do is put in for two surveyors with the equipment to do the job for that particular activity and. The other thing is going back to registration engineer. So registration engineer is around say 25 to 30,000. So we’ll put in 28,000 divided by two 20. [00:06:00] So we’ll call it one 30 for this example and.

[00:06:06] I forgot to divide this by nine eight hours. So this is the hours that we’ll be charged against and cad technician time or CAD time. So we can use this five by eight. So it, it’s roughly this figure per hour. For t he cad time to undertake the works. So the other thing we’ll probably have is s a profit I’ve put in 20%, which is fairly reasonable for a small to medium size surveying firm.

[00:06:44] The CAD time it will depend on the number of plans . So let’s clear this up. Hours for drawing. So normally a floor plan would take three to four hours, depending on the complexity and the [00:07:00] amount of rooms in that floor plan. So if it, let’s just say it is just standard two to three room, it would take the surveyor three to four hours.

[00:07:11] So we’ll just put four hours as a max. Again, elevation sections, but photo photographical survey might take a a bit more time depending on the features. So I’m gonna do take this times. The remainder. Then we’ll just sum this up. So I’ve got 29 hours to complete the drawing. So that’s the cost so far now with quality assurance.

[00:07:43] So would normally allow for an hour to two hours on this. So we’ll put this in there. So, And that will be the estimated cost of this. The computer and other consumables such as [00:08:00] electricity will be covered in your overheads . So hence that’s why we feel this will be fairly generous at the 20% mark to cover the operating cost of the business. So looking at this, you can range your cost to one point 5K, and with the inclusion of v a t will be 1,900. Now, this is of a high quality, and you’ll get a lot of the details, but let’s say we redo. Quotation with a lot less detail and different methodologies, so without a 3D scanner.

[00:08:41] So let’s start this at a medium to not low, but I would say adequate enough. So let’s.

[00:08:58] Of, so a [00:09:00] total station hire per week. So one a week. So let’s keep it as a day is around 400 a week. So divided by five, you get daily cost of 80 pounds. Now with this, the output changes drastically because now you’re spending a bit more time on site to do the work. So in terms of topographical survey output for my high level estimates, you could do this within so I think they can do around 600, 700 square day.

[00:09:46] So I’ll keep it at 600. Square. But the floor plans now because they are doing it with a mix of total station and a dis meter. Now the purchase [00:10:00] of this equipment is a lot less, so we’ll keep it as 400 divided by two 20, which is the day it is roughly what you’ll get if you purchase it. But if you hire it out, it’d be around 12 to 20 pounds a week.

[00:10:20] So let’s do five. So this is roughly what’s gonna cost you per week. And this is per this diameter. Now because the output you won’t need a registration engineer. The cost of labor would shorten. You do need the quality assurance and you do need some cad time for the surveys Now, for output for the plan.

[00:10:45] It takes a lot. It’s a lot different. So usually it would take I believe it was. 202, so 90 [00:11:00] times three. So roughly 270 square a day depending on a, you know, average property. So that’s two 70. . And now the problem with the sections, it does take a lot more time. So again depending on the number of sections that you are doing, you will probably spend over four or five hours on there per.

[00:11:32] Section elevation would take at least three to four hours. Now, because they’re not based on square meters, you need to calculate it slightly differently. So I would allow a generous three hours for the elevation. Generous, four hours for the. Section because of the complexity and just calculation of them, you can it [00:12:00] does get reduced if it’s an easy one.

[00:12:02] So, You can pick it up just based on the floor plan. Ideally, it’s best to identify it and annotate your section on the day of the survey. So this is kind of a risk factor within this, because I would leave someone to focus solely to do section or. and floor plan. So we did say around two 70. So I would say a full eight to nine hour day.

[00:12:34] Because we’re doing 200 and the topo, we would say two full day. So that would be eight. Then that would be.

[00:12:50] That much, and that’s based on one person. So this is a total amount of hours to do the job. So it is [00:13:00] fairly high number, but the way it works out is that would be roughly the same there dated of station.

[00:13:15] So let’s just call it four days. And as you can see, the calculation roughly comes out the same. However, you’ll be spending a lot more time on site to do the survey. , and that’s something that needs to just be considered when undertaking the survey. Now already they’re doing the survey on site with the cad element of the work because they’re doing the survey and sketches on site, it’ll be a lot less.

[00:13:46] So we did work out roughly a 30 I think 20 to 30% reduction in terms of the hours spent on the drawings, but there is still a substantial amount so, [00:14:00] our, you know, very conservative just put reduction of 15 on there. And, you know, the cost differences from the 1.5 to 1.4 isn’t a massive change, but the quality is Is, I would say a lot more reasonable than usual and you’ll still get a good fundamental survey outfit for your planning permission.

[00:14:30] Now that you’ve understood the calculation, you can play around with this spreadsheet that I will share in the post so you can understand how I’ve worked it out. And you can put some figures. these two play around with, and it was, it’s quite good and gives you a very good indication of how much things cost and you can work it out yourself to budget [00:15:00] your project.

[00:15:01] So I hope this helps you, gives you a good understanding of costing a project now. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to leave a comment on this video.

The Difference Between a Measured Building Surveyor and a Building Surveyor

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From developing large agricultural structures to designing complex residential development schemes, a building surveyor plays an essential role is providing professional advice when development and building property. Surveyors work on a range of residential, commercial and industrial projects, including restoration and maintenance projects. Within the surveyor field, there are a variety of specialisms related to specific aspects of surveying such as measured building surveys.

The Role of a Building Surveyor

Building surveyors provide professional advice on the design and development of a property, whether it is for a new build or the redevelopment of an existing property. Unlike a land surveyor, this type of surveyor focuses on the structure itself rather than the surrounding lands. They work with architects and other professionals to identify preventative measures to ensure buildings are safe. Surveyors also provide advice on how to make structures sustainable over time. In some cases since they are specialists in building regulations and determining the condition of buildings, they also provide evidence in court as an expert witness. These professionals are involved in construction design and building works, and have an active role in project management and monitoring.

Services Provided by Surveyors

The work of a surveyor is diverse and can involve a wide range of tasks. They are involved in various aspects of construction, including design, maintenance, repair, refurbishment, and restoration. The services provided by a surveyor may vary and may specialist in specific aspects of building surveying. A surveyor may specialise in providing advice on property legislation or may provide a full project management and monitoring service. They may also focus on undertaking building surveys and measures surveys. Alternatively, a surveyor might specialist in providing pre-acquisition surveys or defect investigations.

Typical work activities include provide advice on property schemes and projects, as well as identifying requirements for the project. They also prepare designs or drawings that include project specifications, costings and timelines. Surveyors also work to determine the condition of existing structures, including identifying potential safety issues and assessing defects to propose potential repairs to ensure the structural integrity of the property. They might also provide advice on the environmental impact of a project, the preservation or construction of historic properties, health and safety issues, project feasibility, and building construction and design regulations. Surveyors may also deal planning applications as well as insurance assessments and claims.

The Role of a Measured Building Surveyor

While a generalist surveyor may provide a range of services outlined above, certain professionals specialise in carrying out measured building surveys. A measured survey is a building survey that is used to produce detailed plans for a building. These types of surveys are generally undertaken before redevelopment or renovation projects. They may also be used for commercial purposes or be completed once the construction phase of a building project is finished.

To complete the survey, a measured building surveyor uses digital instruments to obtain precise measurements of a property. These measurements are then used to produce a plan by the surveyor or another professional. The building measurements are also used by architects and interior designers for further planning and development work on the property. Plans or drawings may also be used to obtain planning permits from local authorities.

What is a Measured Survey?

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A Measured Survey is a drawing showing the dimensions, locations and permanent features of your property, which can be a building or land.

The dimensions are usually drawn up to a scale of 1:100 for buildings, 1:50 for listed buildings and 1:250 for the land.

The location is determined by GPS (GNSS) or can be created locally specifically for your property. The positions are relative to their reference points, i.e. GPS or the local establish control points.

Permanent features can include:

  • walls
  • windows
  • doors
  • beams
  • columns
  • built in cabinets/ wardrobe
  • ponds
  • trees
  • pavement
  • street furniture

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